Comments on: Debt-Tolerant? http://thebudgetingbabe.com/2007/03/11/debt-tolerant/ A personal finance blog for career minded women with small budgets and big dreams. Sun, 05 Aug 2012 15:47:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ken http://thebudgetingbabe.com/2007/03/11/debt-tolerant/#comment-2129 Ken Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:38:00 +0000 http://thebudgetingbabe.com/?p=280#comment-2129 Debt is a happy medium. I have 47k in student loans, but its at a manageble rate and for a good cause. However the 26k in credit card debt I racked up was not. Life is turning around after a year and some cutting back. Our American Society sends a message of "buy materialistic crap", that we buy to impress people who don't care. <br/><br/>I would rather own things, than have things own me. I will get there eventually. Debt is a happy medium. I have 47k in student loans, but its at a manageble rate and for a good cause. However the 26k in credit card debt I racked up was not. Life is turning around after a year and some cutting back. Our American Society sends a message of “buy materialistic crap”, that we buy to impress people who don’t care.

I would rather own things, than have things own me. I will get there eventually.

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By: Anonymous http://thebudgetingbabe.com/2007/03/11/debt-tolerant/#comment-2016 Anonymous Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:18:00 +0000 http://thebudgetingbabe.com/?p=280#comment-2016 To all you young'uns out there:<br/><br/>My husband and I are in our early 50s. Our furniture is still mismatched. My husband drives his late father's car, a 1980-something Olds. We get most of our clothes from thrift stores. We living in a small house on 1 quarter acre. Our "vacations" are trips to take care of business with our elderly parents. It took me six years of night school to get my BA, in the 1980s, when nobody gave a damn that I was a working woman trying to climb the corporate ladder while putting myself through school. I had no rich daddy, no rich mommy, no husband, no government assistance, except student loans, which took me 12 years to pay off. Why? Because on the road to trying to live the so-called American dream with all the "subsidized" baby-boomers out there, life took over and we had huge debt from illness and accidents and loss of work. IOW, folks, things we couldn't control..on top of all the normal mistakes people can and do make. And yes, we are still surrounded by people who go to Europe every 15 minutes, travel on the weekend, own boats, have huge houses and Hummers. Most of them cannot fathom what life is like...whether they're in debt or not. BTW, my husband and I are spending our "vacation" money to fly home to bury his mother, who isn't expected to live another 48 hours. PS: I have an uncompleted MA and my husband is a summa cum laude grad with an MS in Computer Engineering and is gainfully employed. My point is that if you blow your load on stupid stuff, you won't have any money when the really big shit (like death and illness) hit the fan. Maybe you'll be one of the lucky ones...and that's what you all are counting on, but remember Jon Donne: "Ask not for whom the bell tolls--it tolls for thee." Meet the working poor! Be proactive and conscious. To all you young’uns out there:

My husband and I are in our early 50s. Our furniture is still mismatched. My husband drives his late father’s car, a 1980-something Olds. We get most of our clothes from thrift stores. We living in a small house on 1 quarter acre. Our “vacations” are trips to take care of business with our elderly parents. It took me six years of night school to get my BA, in the 1980s, when nobody gave a damn that I was a working woman trying to climb the corporate ladder while putting myself through school. I had no rich daddy, no rich mommy, no husband, no government assistance, except student loans, which took me 12 years to pay off. Why? Because on the road to trying to live the so-called American dream with all the “subsidized” baby-boomers out there, life took over and we had huge debt from illness and accidents and loss of work. IOW, folks, things we couldn’t control..on top of all the normal mistakes people can and do make. And yes, we are still surrounded by people who go to Europe every 15 minutes, travel on the weekend, own boats, have huge houses and Hummers. Most of them cannot fathom what life is like…whether they’re in debt or not. BTW, my husband and I are spending our “vacation” money to fly home to bury his mother, who isn’t expected to live another 48 hours. PS: I have an uncompleted MA and my husband is a summa cum laude grad with an MS in Computer Engineering and is gainfully employed. My point is that if you blow your load on stupid stuff, you won’t have any money when the really big shit (like death and illness) hit the fan. Maybe you’ll be one of the lucky ones…and that’s what you all are counting on, but remember Jon Donne: “Ask not for whom the bell tolls–it tolls for thee.” Meet the working poor! Be proactive and conscious.

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By: Fabulously Broke in the City http://thebudgetingbabe.com/2007/03/11/debt-tolerant/#comment-1967 Fabulously Broke in the City Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:33:00 +0000 http://thebudgetingbabe.com/?p=280#comment-1967 I like that. I've tried to stay out of debt, but it gets so hard when you see how much you owe in educational debt. Then stupid things pop up like insurance doing some weird thing where they won't cover your dental checkups every 4 months, but 9 months instead, or something breaks/breaks down... *sigh* it's neverending. :(<br/><br/>Your post reminded me to remember to SAVE the money aside first, then buy it in full instead of on credit all the time. It's an easy trap to fall into. I like that. I’ve tried to stay out of debt, but it gets so hard when you see how much you owe in educational debt. Then stupid things pop up like insurance doing some weird thing where they won’t cover your dental checkups every 4 months, but 9 months instead, or something breaks/breaks down… *sigh* it’s neverending. :(

Your post reminded me to remember to SAVE the money aside first, then buy it in full instead of on credit all the time. It’s an easy trap to fall into.

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By: Nicole http://thebudgetingbabe.com/2007/03/11/debt-tolerant/#comment-1966 Nicole Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:57:00 +0000 http://thebudgetingbabe.com/?p=280#comment-1966 Meant to say filled with non-necessities... they just are super talented decorators and their house has a unique appeal to it. Meant to say filled with non-necessities… they just are super talented decorators and their house has a unique appeal to it.

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By: Nicole http://thebudgetingbabe.com/2007/03/11/debt-tolerant/#comment-1965 Nicole Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:56:00 +0000 http://thebudgetingbabe.com/?p=280#comment-1965 Oh, I hope I didn't give the impression that my cousins live an extravagant lifestyle! They have a beautiful house, but it's not flashy or filled with non-necessary. They are some of the most grounded, nice and caring people I know and I'd feel horribly embarrased if I made it seem that way. It was just the phrase that struck me, that's all. Oh, I hope I didn’t give the impression that my cousins live an extravagant lifestyle! They have a beautiful house, but it’s not flashy or filled with non-necessary. They are some of the most grounded, nice and caring people I know and I’d feel horribly embarrased if I made it seem that way. It was just the phrase that struck me, that’s all.

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By: Escape Brooklyn http://thebudgetingbabe.com/2007/03/11/debt-tolerant/#comment-1964 Escape Brooklyn Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:45:00 +0000 http://thebudgetingbabe.com/?p=280#comment-1964 The advice that I like relating to debt is to only take debt for things that will appreciate, like houses or education (an investment in yourself so that your income appreciates). Taking debt for things that will depreciate, like consumer goods and cars, is generally a bad idea if you can avoid it. The advice that I like relating to debt is to only take debt for things that will appreciate, like houses or education (an investment in yourself so that your income appreciates). Taking debt for things that will depreciate, like consumer goods and cars, is generally a bad idea if you can avoid it.

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By: Sean http://thebudgetingbabe.com/2007/03/11/debt-tolerant/#comment-1963 Sean Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:38:00 +0000 http://thebudgetingbabe.com/?p=280#comment-1963 I absolutely hate debt...but not so much that I didn't get a student loan in order to pay the rent during college.<br/><br/>That being said, I am attacking that student loan with a vengeance now that I'm graduated and have a little money to throw at it. With $5,250 in loans (starting balance), I expect I'll have it paid off in less than 4 months. That's how much I hate it.<br/><br/>From the above, you can probably guess my opinion of those who willingly take on debt in order to finance a lifestyle they don't really own. It's pretentious, prideful, and a little sad. We care so much about what others think of us, and we have so little ability to delay gratification that we sell ourselves into slavery to get that which does not ultimately satisfy. I absolutely hate debt…but not so much that I didn’t get a student loan in order to pay the rent during college.

That being said, I am attacking that student loan with a vengeance now that I’m graduated and have a little money to throw at it. With $5,250 in loans (starting balance), I expect I’ll have it paid off in less than 4 months. That’s how much I hate it.

From the above, you can probably guess my opinion of those who willingly take on debt in order to finance a lifestyle they don’t really own. It’s pretentious, prideful, and a little sad. We care so much about what others think of us, and we have so little ability to delay gratification that we sell ourselves into slavery to get that which does not ultimately satisfy.

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By: Anonymous http://thebudgetingbabe.com/2007/03/11/debt-tolerant/#comment-1962 Anonymous Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:25:00 +0000 http://thebudgetingbabe.com/?p=280#comment-1962 If we are able to pay debt off, then we are able to save money to eliminate the debt in the first place and buy with money we have saved. Do I think that's necssarily true about a house? No. About living room furniture? Yes. But we gotta have it NOW because OMG what would happen if I had ugly cheap mismatched furniture for a year while I saved money to buy decent furniture? If we are able to pay debt off, then we are able to save money to eliminate the debt in the first place and buy with money we have saved. Do I think that’s necssarily true about a house? No. About living room furniture? Yes. But we gotta have it NOW because OMG what would happen if I had ugly cheap mismatched furniture for a year while I saved money to buy decent furniture?

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By: ~Dawn http://thebudgetingbabe.com/2007/03/11/debt-tolerant/#comment-1961 ~Dawn Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:01:00 +0000 http://thebudgetingbabe.com/?p=280#comment-1961 I hate the idea of becoming 'debt tolerant', the word almost makes me sick to my stomach. Maybe it is the thought that things can SO easily get out of control.<br/><br/>Ugh, I don't ever want to be debt tolerant. Good post! I hate the idea of becoming ‘debt tolerant’, the word almost makes me sick to my stomach. Maybe it is the thought that things can SO easily get out of control.

Ugh, I don’t ever want to be debt tolerant. Good post!

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By: Steve http://thebudgetingbabe.com/2007/03/11/debt-tolerant/#comment-1960 Steve Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:14:00 +0000 http://thebudgetingbabe.com/?p=280#comment-1960 Great post. I am starting to wonder as gas prices, electricity and the cost of living in general increases while salaries stay the same, will the debt we incur become more out of control. I beleive if we are not careful with debt as a society, we are in for a rude awakening. Great post. I am starting to wonder as gas prices, electricity and the cost of living in general increases while salaries stay the same, will the debt we incur become more out of control. I beleive if we are not careful with debt as a society, we are in for a rude awakening.

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